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Post by ash on Apr 27, 2009 15:48:28 GMT 9.5
I know this has been talked about for a while but I do not post on that other board.
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Post by alex on Apr 27, 2009 15:59:08 GMT 9.5
I am happy to pay more for GW minis these days, the quality has increased massive amounts in the last decade, we used to have to buy a blister pack of 3 metal minis for $12. Now the same minis are in plastic multi part kits, and instead of having only 3 or 4 poses, that were very 2D, the sprues are packed full of options, extras and themed pieces, and yet the price per mini isn't all that different from all that time ago with vastly inferior products.
e.g. IIRC my metal hive tyrant cost about $65 10 or 12 years ago, the current one is about the same price and has lost of options and is easier to convert glue paint and transport because its plastic.
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Post by ash on Apr 27, 2009 16:10:40 GMT 9.5
Yep. exactly.
More money means better processes of manufacture which equates to better product. All companies have done price rises but people only hone in on GW due to them being top dog in the industry. There is a reason why they are there and a reason why they will stay there.
In the last 15 years games workshop has expanded their saturation into other countries, more stores, more retailers by 400% and are aiming to do just that again over the next 15. they will not slow down and the fact that a few jaded people will cross over to other systems will noit change this.
I love the fact that there are people complaining about this price rise who have only seen one price rise. I have seen a lot of them and in my mind they are all warranted for the reasons alex stated above. The miniatures are a lot better than they were 20 odd years ago yet the price has net even doubled. In 20 years time the miniatures will be a lot better than they are now and yes the price will cost more but its worth it.
What was the price of coke 20 years ago... or bread... or a bag of hot chips... These things are still as they were, not improved. The next time coke goes up i am starting a thread about it..
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Post by majordodo on Apr 27, 2009 20:50:13 GMT 9.5
I dont have a problem with price rises per se. As I posted on "that other board" I problems is with the price difference and with repackaging that works out to less. Ie. Imperial Guard going from $50 for 20 to $35 for 10.
Although... i have one question for both of you. Justify charging $69 for a box of 10 plastic Greatswords.
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Post by ash on Apr 27, 2009 21:30:08 GMT 9.5
How do you justify $5.95 for 15 pieces of card?
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Post by ash on Apr 27, 2009 21:31:02 GMT 9.5
Its absurd yet you still pay it, I still pay it, millions of people pay it. Why would they not charge it if they can sell it for that?
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Post by majordodo on Apr 27, 2009 21:44:40 GMT 9.5
Yeah but those cards dont get regular price rises each year and all of those peices of card retail at the same. its just their collectors worth that differes. Whereas games workshop has a series of products all around the same contents at one price and then this kit which hardly contains a huge amount more. yet theyve doubled the price compared to these similar kits. it makes no sense.
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Post by alex on Apr 27, 2009 21:52:19 GMT 9.5
I problems is with the price difference ARE YOU F U C K I N G RETARDED? English, m o t h e r f u c k e r , DO YOU SPEAK IT? Justify charging $69 for a box of 10 plastic Greatswords. ok watch me: charging $69 for a box of 10 plastic Greatswords. voila |
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Post by calicojack on Apr 27, 2009 22:41:24 GMT 9.5
regular price rises each year? youve been in it for one year! thats like saying that every dog is brown cos youve only ever seen three dogs and they were all brown.
it sounds to me like an old man bitching that he cant get a pie and and icecream and a trip to the beach and back on a tram with 5 cents and get change.
and while the pieces of card are all at one retail price ,you can still buy a piece of card worth 5 grand?
Is it on ancient egyptian papyrus, drawn by da vinci and have the cure for cancer in a magic eye picture?
If you can charge that amount for it, why the f**k not?
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Post by alex on Apr 27, 2009 23:14:07 GMT 9.5
Justify charging $69 for a box of 10 plastic Greatswords. games workshop has a series of products all around the same contents at one price and then this kit which hardly contains a huge amount more. yet theyve doubled the price compared to these similar kits. it makes no sense. Things that do not make sense TO YOU, due to you being a retarded fire-crotched freak may make sense to intelligent people like us, or even fairly slow monkeys, like Bega.  If GW makes a plastic kit for something that will sell lots, like a marine tactical squad then the high initial setup cost of buying the injection machine and setting up the mold etc (or however the f**k it works) is spread over thousands and thousands of boxes that get sold, so the price can be set at a low level and they will easily cover the one-off costs like the mold, and recurring costs, like plastic, boxing, shipping, shop costs and staff. If they make a plastic kit for something that will sell less, like veteran marines or empire greatswords then the high initial setup cost will need to be spread over fewer total sales overall, so to make enough money to recoup the initial costs the price per unit must be higher, because they won't sell as many. If they have set a price structure for a certain kit and find that sales do not meet their projections they might find they need to increase the cost per box for that item only to break even on the initial costs. Therefore price changes and reboxing etc are the natural result of the changing economics of the situation. Perhaps one year if you are lucky enough to get a brain in your christmas stocking you can think about this and realise that your position on the matter is unrealistic, naive and moronic. |
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Post by Doc on Apr 27, 2009 23:17:20 GMT 9.5
I agrre
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Post by alex on Apr 28, 2009 14:05:35 GMT 9.5
hey majordildo, where's your inane angsty teenie whining? Hey we need more of these blatantly beligerant threads, Ash. Can you make a new thread where dodo supports a ridiculously narrow minded and untenuous position, since he's skulked away from this one?  |
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Post by ash on Apr 28, 2009 14:42:04 GMT 9.5
I think you may have drained that resource...
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Post by alex on Apr 28, 2009 15:19:29 GMT 9.5
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Post by draconis on Apr 28, 2009 19:10:35 GMT 9.5
Justify charging $69 for a box of 10 plastic Greatswords. games workshop has a series of products all around the same contents at one price and then this kit which hardly contains a huge amount more. yet theyve doubled the price compared to these similar kits. it makes no sense. Things that do not make sense TO YOU, due to you being a retarded fire-crotched freak may make sense to intelligent people like us, or even fairly slow monkeys, like Bega. If GW makes a plastic kit for something that will sell lots, like a marine tactical squad then the high initial setup cost of buying the injection machine and setting up the mold etc (or however the f**k it works) is spread over thousands and thousands of boxes that get sold, so the price can be set at a low level and they will easily cover the one-off costs like the mold, and recurring costs, like plastic, boxing, shipping, shop costs and staff. If they make a plastic kit for something that will sell less, like veteran marines or empire greatswords then the high initial setup cost will need to be spread over fewer total sales overall, so to make enough money to recoup the initial costs the price per unit must be higher, because they won't sell as many. If they have set a price structure for a certain kit and find that sales do not meet their projections they might find they need to increase the cost per box for that item only to break even on the initial costs. Therefore price changes and reboxing etc are the natural result of the changing economics of the situation. Perhaps one year if you are lucky enough to get a brain in your christmas stocking you can think about this and realise that your position on the matter is unrealistic, naive and moronic. Amen. Best descripion ever < in a Comic book guy voice > |
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Post by alex on Apr 28, 2009 19:24:20 GMT 9.5
Oh oh, I think we scared off the little dodo, where is he?
Must have run off to his mommy's lap to have a cry.
PS I think noone got my lame attempted joke:
JUSTIFY
4. Printing. a. to make (a line of type) a desired length by spacing the words and letters, esp. so that full lines in a column have even margins both on the left and on the right.
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Post by majordodo on Apr 28, 2009 19:46:24 GMT 9.5
Why would I bother posting in the "Lets goad dodo into making his usual ill-thought-out comments so that we can rip the shit out of him." thread?
Especially when the point im trying to get accross is that I really dont understand why they have products which easily fit into an existing price bracket priced so much higher then their counterparts. Tell me exactly why a 10 man box of Great Swords is worth so much more than a 10 man box of Temple Guard, or any of the non-metal Troop boxes for 40k/Fantasy. I can understand the price of a valkyrie being higher if its a physically larger kit. I can see the marketing idea behind repackaging the IG troops. What I can't understand is when a company announces its plan to swing towards plastic to reduce prices in comparison to the metal models and then prices their new PLASTIC products at a price barely cheaper than their metal equivelents.
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Post by alex on Apr 28, 2009 19:50:18 GMT 9.5
Why would I bother posting in the "Lets goad dodo into making his usual ill-thought-out comments so that we can rip the shit out of him." thread? because its hilarious for the rest of us  |
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Post by majordodo on Apr 28, 2009 20:10:48 GMT 9.5
Well I'm glad I can be the source of comic relief for you assholes.
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Post by ash on May 8, 2009 13:44:58 GMT 9.5
Its still cheaper which is what they aimed to do (apparently)
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